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Reviews. Were PSM2 & XBW honest? (Part
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Kalibur
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:13
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subject:

This thread probably brought to mind
what a lot of people already believed to be
true...
I used to read PSM2 when my bro got
his Playstation2, and i had chose it because i had
read its father, the magazine for the original
Playstation almost every month...
I think most
people where suspicious about it's high reviews...

One of the biggest tragedies to my mind was
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty...10/10... I
dont know how many people have played this but, it
is absolutely terrible, i havent heard a person
say it was more than 6/10...

Its obvious
these magazines are looking out for themselves.

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Cal
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:31
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Steve
wrote:

There’s only a few decent
magazines available today, Edge (obviously),
NGC, games™, PC Gamer and erm, that’s it. The
rest are absolute
rubbish.

Hey - 3 out of four ain't
bad (NGC is the only one of those mentioned I
don't get). And I don't get any other game mags -
because, as Steve says, they are absolute
rubbish. I hate being spoken to like I'm a
lager-lout, or a tits-mad chav. I hate seeing all
the creativity and idealism of games developers
reduced to a few mindless, appallingly 'written'
lines of nonsense. I can't stand magazines who
claim to love games and gaming but spend the
majority of their pages talking about anything
but games,
just having a laff with their mates.

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jamiej
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:43
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subject:

Firstly-Mgs2
wasnt crap-
Secondly Atari must be stupid for
asking for 2 good reviews from the same
publisher,why not try a diferrent company,s' less
suspiscious.....
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KKLEIN
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:45
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subject:

jamiej
wrote:

Secondly Atari must be stupid
for asking for 2 good reviews from the same
publisher,why not try a diferrent company,s'
less
suspiscious.....

Well seeing as there's really
only 2 companies anyway (Paragon & Future)
there's not exactly much
choice.
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KKLEIN
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:59
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Now EDGE is a
fantastic magazine, but to be honest, I find it
quite hard to read. Half of the techno talk just
goes way over my head. Games Tm on the other hand
is more accessible - in fact it's very similar to
Play magazine (looks near identical) but with a
tougher scoring system & it's multiformat to
boot.

When EDGE starts talking about TRAX
system Volume 5 on a PNG file format for ps2 I
haven't got a clue what they're talking
about.
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jamiej
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:02
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Good grief-2
companies...how many magazines covering exactly
the same things.....
I used to buy psw,but it
somehow got boring.
strange as how future
bought it at that
time....
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KKLEIN
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:08
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OPS2, NGC, MAX,
Gamesmaster, EDGE, Xbox World, Playstation World,
PSM2, PC Gamer, Xbox Gamer, Cheatzone &
Advance are all made & published by Future
Publishing.

Official Xbox Magazine is made
by FXMI, another division of Future.

Games
Tm, PSi2, Play, Xbox Magazine, Cube, Powerstation
& Solutions are all pulished by Paragon/
Highbury
Entertainment.
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GwiDan
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:24
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subject:

I've emailed
Future Publishing's management with a pretty
lengthy email explaining all this - odds on me
getting a reply are about 3000-1, though, I'm
afraid. It's a shame that big corporations don't
care about their customers, only the expending
size of their Swiss bank account.

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Eighthours
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:27
pm    Post
subject:

A guy who works
for Microsoft writes......

Quote:

Well, since we're spilling
beans, I'll just point out that nobody I know in
Microsoft's European certification labs has had
a sniff of this. Now, I'm not saying it didn't
pass certification, just pointing out it's the
only time I've seen a title like this slip under
the radar in a place in which most people where
looking forward to it and hence making an active
effort to come in to contanct with it.
I'd
jut like to stress that neither I nor any of the
people I work with were responsible for
certifying this heap of buggy sh*t. Thank you.

We do quite a lot of things with regards
to the European releases but one of the things
we do is make sure stuff like the list Decider
wrote (he
posted a load of videos he had made which show
many hilarious Driv3r bugs in action)
just doesn't happen. The thing is, I don't want
to say this hasn't been certified, because it
has, I mean, there's no way they could have
released it otherwise. But at the same time, all
the certifications for third party European
releases get done in one place, and nobody I
know from the office has seen this game. In
fact, when I said it was coming out this week I
was looked at like a mad man and told "No, you
must have the date wrong, it needs certification
before the duplication process can begin".

This is all very strange, and I honestly
can't give an answer as to why this has
happened. If a game came in like that then it
would simply get shipped back to the developer
with a list similar to Decider's and told to
resolve those issues.

I'm no authority
though, and I've probably said a lot more than I
should, though I guess NDAs don't apply to
titles that haven't even come through our office
haha.

EDIT: I should say though, the
game may have passed on a technicality. See, if
the flaws are minor enough then they're not
considered critical flaws and so are written up
as things which Microsoft "reccomends" are
changed, but that's it. I guess through some
loophole Driv3r just has LOADS of these little
things and as such never managed to get a
critical fault which would have failed it
outright

Interesting.....
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GwiDan
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:32
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Which forum was
the Microsoft bloke on?

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OctogenarianPussy
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:32
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Oh
dear.
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KKLEIN
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:34
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Eighthours
wrote:

A guy who works for Microsoft
writes......

Quote:

Well, since we're spilling
beans, I'll just point out that nobody I know in
Microsoft's European certification labs has had
a sniff of this. ect, ect,
ect.

Interesting....

Nice to know Microsoft has a
pretty good testing, erm, center. If it didn't go
where that cuy works though, where exactly did it
go then?
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:39
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KKLEIN
wrote:

where exactly did it go
then?

A brown envelope?
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Eighthours
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:40
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GwiDan
wrote:

Which forum was the Microsoft
bloke on?

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phAnt0m
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:42
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subject:

I'd actually
like to inform you of something else I discovered
in XBW that is directly related to 'Driv3rgate'
(Cool name, eh?). Having read the Galleon review,
it is no better than the Driv3r one. Not one single bad point
was explained. Strange, isn't it?

PS. I don't work for anyone but some old
t*** in a paper shop, delivering papers.

Get's me out of the conspiracy.
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