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phAnt0m
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:26
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bear
wrote:

Has anyone contacted the Sun
yet?I know its not exactly a good paper but you
know getting this sort publicity outside our
"circle" can only be a good thing
right.

Do it. Do it. Do it. I mean
you, by the way.

People need to know.

I don't like the Sun, but mon beau-pere
loves it. Me and my mummio read The
Mirror.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:39
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subject:

marvelharvey
wrote:

1) Sending out unfinished review
code is normal, we all tell the magazines the
bugs we know of, what we're fixing and what's
staying in. The magazines usual take what we say
with a pinch of salt as they know that we can't
do much in the final two or three weeks of
development (even though I've witnessed 'turd
like' games suddenly all come together in the
final few days and become brilliant due to a few
code, design or art changes)

Coming from within the
industry, that comment is quite important imo. I
know that personally, I want my magazines to have
reviews before games are released. If you're the
type of person to buy magazines, you're most
likely the type of person who wants their reviews
before the top games come out, and not two months
after. Therefore, I understand that magazines
might take this route in order to provide gamers
with what they want, and perhaps switches some of
the focus onto Atari, but it still doesn't go the
full way to explaining the reason for the
magazines to ignore problems so apparent in a game
that sources within the same company earlier
called it a "bug ridden glitch fest".

Quote:

2) I've seen lots of
underhand tactics when it comes to games
reviews. One of the games I worked on got a bad
score on a leading game website, 2 hours and one
phone call from our publisher later, the score
goes up 2 whole points! I've seen magazines told
that unless they review one of our games very
favourably, they will never recieve review code
from us again... we got a good review.

That
does.
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bear
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:42
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dodgy_dave
wrote:

Matthew
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

space doubt 3
wrote:

Edge score
3/10.

Typical.

You like it.
Most other
people here, and those reviewing it, don't.

Really, stop worrying about it.

Oh!
And also, CVG =
64%

No what I mean is that
it's typical of Edge to give it 3/10.

Huge Atari game + Huge Interest + Slight
Disappointment =
3/10

Slight disapointment
The thing is practically broken and
in no way shape or form should it have been
shipped to customers as it is.And implying edge
marked it down because of the fact it was hyped is
bloody wrong.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:47
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subject:

bear
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

Matthew
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

space doubt 3
wrote:

Edge score
3/10.

Typical.

You like it.
Most other
people here, and those reviewing it, don't.

Really, stop worrying about it.

Oh!
And also, CVG =
64%

No what I mean is that
it's typical of Edge to give it 3/10.

Huge Atari game + Huge Interest + Slight
Disappointment =
3/10

Slight disapointment
The thing is practically broken
and in no way shape or form should it have been
shipped to customers as it is.And implying edge
marked it down because of the fact it was hyped
is bloody
wrong.

I certainly wouldn't call
it broken. The game works, and it works how it's
supposed to.

Technically it's flawed,
therefore the disappointment comes in at a
technical level. Gameplay wise it is not,
therefore there really shouldn't be that much
disappointment at
all.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:50
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dodgy dave, did
you send an email into official xbox magazine??? I
saw a message in the magazine from the same
username.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:50
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Edges rating system
wrote:

3. Severely
flawed

Bear in mind that Edge takes 5
to be average. Looking at what they say a 3 is,
I'd say they've gotten it spot on according to
what people have been saying about the
game
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:52
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subject:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

Technically it's flawed,
therefore the disappointment comes in at a
technical level. Gameplay wise it is not,
therefore there really shouldn't be that much
disappointment at
all.

The cars handle great. They
smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases,
quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very
clever but what the
hell).
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:52
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nick_1
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dodgy dave, did you send an
email into official xbox magazine??? I saw a
message in the magazine from the same
username.

Lol no I didn't. I wouldn't
touch OXM with a 10 foot barge-pole.

What
did it say?
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bear
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:53
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But its
technically flawed to such an extent that the
gameplay is also flawed.
And also when you
works how its supposed are you saying Reflections
meant for people to have to replay mission after
mission because the games flaws prevent them from
completing it first or second time around?
By
the way I have contacted a national DJs show over
this hope to hear a reply soon.

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dodgy_dave
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:53
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subject:

KKLEIN
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

Technically it's flawed,
therefore the disappointment comes in at a
technical level. Gameplay wise it is not,
therefore there really shouldn't be that much
disappointment at
all.

The cars handle great. They
smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases,
quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very
clever but what the
hell).

And Driver 1 was
excellent....
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:55
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bear
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And also when you works how its
supposed are you saying Reflections meant for
people to have to replay mission after mission
because the games flaws prevent them from
completing it first or second time
around?

What mission have you had
to replay simply because of technical
problems??
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:55
pm    Post
subject:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

KKLEIN
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

Technically it's flawed,
therefore the disappointment comes in at a
technical level. Gameplay wise it is not,
therefore there really shouldn't be that much
disappointment at
all.

The cars handle great. They
smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases,
quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very
clever but what the
hell).

And Driver 1 was
excellent....

.....in
1999.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:55
pm    Post
subject:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

KKLEIN
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

Technically it's flawed,
therefore the disappointment comes in at a
technical level. Gameplay wise it is not,
therefore there really shouldn't be that much
disappointment at
all.

The cars handle great. They
smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases,
quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very
clever but what the
hell).

And Driver 1 was
excellent....

Driver 1 was excellent, 6
YEARS AGO!

And it's available for a couple
of quid. AND better than Driv3r.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:56
pm    Post
subject:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

KKLEIN
wrote:

dodgy_dave
wrote:

Technically it's flawed,
therefore the disappointment comes in at a
technical level. Gameplay wise it is not,
therefore there really shouldn't be that much
disappointment at
all.

The cars handle great. They
smash up great. The graphics are, in most cases,
quite good. The rest of the game though isn't.

It's basically Dr1ver (okay not very
clever but what the
hell).

And Driver 1 was
excellent....

So I suppose that if someone
re-released a good PS1 game on the PS2 at full
price you would proclaim it to be great and
immediately rush out and buy it? Think about what
you're saying
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nick_1
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:56
pm    Post
subject:

Can i just add
that i loved Driv3r. Yes it has pop-up and frame
rate problems, but the game is generally fun. I
enjoyed the game far more than VICE CITY. The car
chases are so amazing. I agree completely with
dodgy_dave

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